10×10″ Collodion Negative meets Lith

Easter gave me the opportunity of making some collodion images and to print them in the darkroom. I started the day with cutting the plates. I have a lot of clear glass left over from some frames of which I didn’t use the glass (back then) and was so smart as to save it. I cut some 10×10″ plates and started on a series I’ve been having on my mind for quite some time now. It’s about nightmares, paranoia, etc. I still have to come up with a title. These are the first shots in this series. Luckily I still have to practice on my negatives (subbing them with albumen for example, had lifting of the collodion, or perhaps, cleaning them even better) so they came out anything but perfect. The exact raw feeling that I was after when thinking out the images in my head.

I shot the plates on the first day of Easter and varnished them that same very day. I was ready for the second day of Easter. Darkroom. Lith printing. I wanted that grainy and raw feel lith can give you so it wasn’t too hard figuring out which way to go with these. The images are contact printed (I love the 10×10″ size) on Rollei Vintage Paper 131 developed in Rollei Superlith developer 24+24+600.

I still have  a lot to learn regarding the making of decent collodion negatives but for lith printing they work out just fine so far. If anything I’m having fun!

19 comments

  1. Hey, I’ve really enjoyed reading all your posts about Wet Plate 🙂
    I’ve just started shooting 4×5 plates on my Linhof and its nice to see the progression in your work from when you started, to out there in the field with your own custom dark box 😉
    I hope all is well, maybe we can shoot some plates next time I’m back in Europe!
    Happy Shooting, Matt.

    1. Hi Matt,

      Yeah, that’s why I love doing the blog. When I read back my old stories they always make me smile! It’s also nice to see the changes in workflow; first only black glass, now moving on to negatives and different printing processes. It’s such an interesting world!
      With all these new things coming on my path I’m certainly doing well 😉 Hope you’re doing okay too!
      Let me know when you travel to Europe, we might meet up!

      Indra

  2. Wow. I’m really pleased to find your posts. So, I’m considering lith printing from wet plate negatives. I’ve never done this. I do platinum, palladium, vandyke etc… but never lith. My question is how did you contact print? With the above processes as I am sure you know they’re not really light sensitive…so I either contact print outside or inside with a huge light suspended from the ceiling. How did you expose your prints? Second question. How did you arrive at an exposure time….test strips? Thanks.

    1. I used Rollei / Fomatone Variant 131 FB paper, which is a normal darkroom paper. I placed the collodion negative on top of the paper, emulsion side down, and exposed the paper using a regular enlarger. I did not make test strips. I first put the negative on the paper, exposed to make a normal print, developed with normal developer and when that turned out okay in density on the paper I took that time and tripled it to get a usable exposure for a lith print. I then continued with the two-bath lith developer and voila.

      I also made lith prints using 4×5″ wet plate negatives, which fit my enlarger, and enlarged them on the same paper as mentioned above. My standard rule is that the exposure time the negative would need for normal printing, times 3, and it’s good for lith printing. Hope this helps 🙂

      1. Yes, that helps quite a bit. Thank you. I’m good with the triple time. I was just wondering about the light source. I have a huge UV light source I’ll use sometimes for contact printing when I’m just testing and image suitability and don’t want to take the time for using the outdoors…but figured that’d toast photo paper. I’m going to give it a go this week. I only have Slavich Bromoprint and Oriental Seagull paper for Lith…I like them.

        Really enjoy your site and your work. Great stuff!!

      2. Thanks, you’re welcome 🙂

        Not sure how regular dop-paper would respond to a uv-light source toasting it sounds just like what would happen haha!

        Slavich makes wonderful paper. Only familiar with their Unibrom but was quite amazed by its unique characteristics. Is the Seagull paper good for lith printing? Never used but always interesting to discover new papers.
        Have fun with the lith & collodion. Please share your results if you like; would love to see them!

      3. Absolutely will share. I’ve planned on including a Lith video or two on my YouTube channel….just still trying to sort out HOW I want to focus it.

        Yes, TOAST would be the operative word.

        Yes, Seagull is good for lith printing. Yields more of a smoky-creamy-neutral print…it’s a neutral/cold paper. That said, it’s quite responsive to all varieties of toning. So, lots of latitude in terms of going in different directions with it. My opinion is that in the end, not quite the quality of result I’d get with Foma, Slavich or some other warm tone papers. Couple odd papers I want to try someday.

      4. Cool, looking forward to your results! A video on lith, nice. We’re in the process here of trying to capture the wet plate process on film but to make it into something special is quite tough.

      5. I have two parts of a Wet Plate 101 Series up on my YouTube channel….and am making a multi-part series trying to take a VERY practical and detailed look at it. My focus is very much on field work though. Love your thoughts…

        My YouTube efforts are rather brand new! lol

      6. It turned out to be even more awesome than I thought it would be. At first it would be that they would just record me doing my photography things but it turned into something all the more special aong the way. The best things in life!

      7. I keep it all very simple… I have an M6 and an M2, both with 50mm lenses (Summicron and Summitar), a Hasselblad 500C with 80mm and my 8×10 with Dahlmeyer 4A. That’s it. I love them all. The big thing for me is, though, the entire craft of the entire process. I love love love exploring the world of alternative printing processes. Salt, Palladium and Vandyke are my favs…. I’m just really starting to genuinely focus on Lith a bit…

      8. I work 34 hrs in a photo shop where I do the large format printing, developing, scanning and editing images. And besides that I work as a freelance photographer doing assignments, mostly digital, and shooting analog, mostly collodion for myself. Work that I try to sell through exhibitions and such.

      9. I am asked frequently to do stuff for people, and I used to often, but I’m just not a big fan of it. Photography, for me, starts in my head. Film and Wet Plate are the pathways for the realization of my vision. I’ve no issue with digital…though I do not like the sterile plastic feel of much of the over processed photographs floating around. Nothing ever ever ever nearly comes close to when I get it right through wet plate or film.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.